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Comment on It’s “Oriented” not “Orientated” by Suny

Suny — Thu, 19 Apr 2012 00:54:59 +0000

It’s oriented. The other thing that really bugs me is the misuse of the word myself. I hate it when people say myself and Bob and Gene will do it. Myself means alone I will do it myself., and it’s Bob, Gene and I will do it not myself and Bob and Gene. Irk, irk, irk

Comment on The Poo Story by Steph

Steph — Mon, 19 Mar 2012 22:19:10 +0000

I did the same as declan

Comment on It’s “Oriented” not “Orientated” by Henry Page

Henry Page — Mon, 19 Mar 2012 21:52:59 +0000

… So you imagine that your version of English was always the correct, spoken version? Do you honestly think that is a realistic assertion? What’s more, whilst holding the belief that ‘orientated’ is not correct, you write English without a capital ‘E’!

Comment on Why I’m done with eBay by shari

shari — Fri, 16 Mar 2012 15:19:48 +0000

Ebay is not the same as it once was.I stayed a way for a while. I did a lot of buying and selling at one point a few years back. I just logged on again for the first time in a couple of years and I can personally say that it’s not the same. the variety is less, the prices are higher and the fees are crazy. Yes…I too have been offered the 2nd chance offer. Its a dangerous place to shop these days. They went “too big” and it turned into a stepping stone for many crooks.I detest paypal as well and stay a way from it as much as possible. As a seller I am not protected at all. It is all in favor of the buyer so I warn anyone who wants to sell large ticket items on Ebay to not do so. It’s very risky. I am a buyer and seller of antiques and I see a trend/reversal to going back somewhat to how many of us use to shop on the internet before Ebay was here.

Comment on It’s “Oriented” not “Orientated” by Pam

Pam — Sat, 10 Mar 2012 16:39:27 +0000

Just the fact that “orientated” came about later (mid. 1900s) proves that it is OK to make up your own vocabulary. We seem to have no standards anymore! I can’t imagine what the english language will sound like in another century! It is “oriented” and I feel that anyone using “orientated” is only trying to sound more educated which sounds irritating in my opinion. I guess if you use what you were taught and I am glad that I was taught the original use of the word!

Comment on It’s “Oriented” not “Orientated” by Logan

Logan — Sun, 04 Mar 2012 18:21:51 +0000

Honestly, I believe it has to do with the region that a person lives. I’m an American & always have used “orient” while believing that those who used otherwise were wrong. However, I lived in New Zealand for several months, and not a single person used “oriented” but rather “orientated.” As long as people understand the meaning you’re trying to convey, then it works. After all, language was created so we could have shared meaning, right?

Comment on It’s “Oriented” not “Orientated” by MJ

MJ — Mon, 27 Feb 2012 21:11:27 +0000

Thank you, Sandie. I may never be able to say orientated, but from now on I will try not to cringe when someone says it, especially if they are British.

I love this thread!

Comment on It’s “Oriented” not “Orientated” by Sarah

Sarah — Mon, 27 Feb 2012 13:50:58 +0000

And rock on to those pointing out the evolution of language.

Comment on It’s “Oriented” not “Orientated” by Sarah

Sarah — Mon, 27 Feb 2012 13:48:53 +0000

Do some research before you get bent out of shape. Oriented and orientated are both legitimate and acceptable words in the English language. Oriented is more commonly used in the U.S., orientated more in the EU.

Comment on It’s “Oriented” not “Orientated” by Henry Page

Henry Page — Mon, 27 Feb 2012 10:42:57 +0000

For many years now the TESOL community and related academia have considered the correct term ‘Englishes’ and not ‘English’, ipso facto there must, by definition, be differences. Languages develop organically as common usage adapts them. Why do you expect a variant dialect to conform to yours? Individual users cannot lay claim to the variant they use, let alone another, distantly used one.

Comment on It’s “Oriented” not “Orientated” by Rick

Rick — Sat, 25 Feb 2012 11:42:19 +0000

Wow. Who cares? Welcome to the world of language. It changes because people start using “improper” speech.

Comment on It’s “Oriented” not “Orientated” by Christiaan

Christiaan — Sat, 25 Feb 2012 08:19:45 +0000

Oh my word.
How arrogant are the people of the United States of America.
They don’t spell colour correctly, but want to tell the British, South Africans, Zambians, Zimbabweans, Australians and all other Previous British colonies to use an older form of a word. Why, sorry probably to modern for your understanding, How come can’t you adapt to the nineteenth century, but expect us in the twenty first (one and twentieth in the old English)to adapt back to ancient language?
By the way if grammar is so important find a single way to pronounce “interesting”. I’ve heard in US movies with a silent ‘t’ or a silent ‘e’.
Good luck

Comment on It’s “Oriented” not “Orientated” by MikeG

MikeG — Fri, 24 Feb 2012 20:22:56 +0000

In my opinion, any preference in pronunciation is not specific to where you reside on the planet. I live in the United States and hear both versions used equally, and the level of education is NOT a factor. My wife is a product of the UK school system and has never used “orientated.” Pronouncing jaguar with a long “u” is the one that throws me off a bit. And yes, I know it’s in the dictionary both ways.

Comment on It’s “Oriented” not “Orientated” by Jason

Jason — Wed, 22 Feb 2012 20:39:48 +0000

Some of you mention “my linguist friend said….”. Most of your linguist friends seemed to be of the opinion that clear communication is the goal. Well, I am one of those “friends”. I agree with them too.
None of you own the English language. None of you have a perfect knowledge of it. The language is not what is was 500 years ago and it won’t be what it is now in 500 years. Does your skin really “crawl” when someone makes a mistake with grammar? While maybe I can’t question your education – I do question your character.

Comment on It’s “Oriented” not “Orientated” by javier brias

javier brias — Wed, 22 Feb 2012 11:01:05 +0000

The problem with words like “orientate”, “preventative”, “interpretate” and “presentate” (yes, I’ve heard it said) is that they are lazy back formations of their noun forms ending in “-tion”. If this trend continues, do not be surprised to see words like “preemptative”, “inventate” and “correctate” in the future. I know English is dynamic and new words are always being added to the lexicon, especially in the field of IT. But accepting (or is that “acceptating”?) every new form of word that comes along just because it is in popular usage, regardless (or is that “irregardless”?) of its correctness, is just plain wrong.

Comment on It’s “Oriented” not “Orientated” by clites

clites — Thu, 09 Feb 2012 18:03:56 +0000

Well it’s rather entertaining how some of you guys (and gals) get off on that! I used “oriented” when I resided in the US as well as when I called (British English speaking) Cyprus home. Now, back in Austria, the native language is German, actually, a dialect thereof. And here, it is “orientiert”. That’s it, no other version, not even in “Austrian”! Live is good! Oh, by the way: George W. Bush used to say “nucular weapons”. Now, is this British, American or just plain stupid????

Comment on It’s “Oriented” not “Orientated” by Henry Page

Henry Page — Sun, 22 Jan 2012 20:44:14 +0000

Sorry, but I forgot a second thought that I wanted to add to my message below. Regarding the French word for entrepreneur, I heard something even funnier. A governor of Texas (allegedly) once said: “If English was good enough for Jesus, it’s good enough for me!” (No attribution) Probably not true, but it always makes me smile.

Comment on It’s “Oriented” not “Orientated” by Henry Page

Henry Page — Sun, 22 Jan 2012 20:35:00 +0000

No one speaks ‘correctly’. That is a value judgement. Following your assertion (Just because a person learns English in Britain, doesn’t mean they speak correctly) what say you of ‘to go’, ‘takeout’ and ‘takeaway’? We now use all three in the UK. I once embarrassed my friends in McDonalds when I was first asked if I wanted “to go large” on that by replying indignantly “I beg your pardon?”.

On that basis, the word ‘takeaway’ would be wrong for American-English, and ‘to go’ would be wrong for British English. Going large wouldn’t exist at all as there are many other ways to suggest a larger portion (ooh look! I just showed you one!).

May I suggest that you don’t take language too seriously lest you take all the fun out of it?

Comment on It’s “Oriented” not “Orientated” by Henry Page

Henry Page — Sun, 22 Jan 2012 20:24:37 +0000

I have to say this is rather silly. A cursory glance at British-English and American-English dictionaries likely yields the word orientate. The spell check here doesn’t ‘red-line’ it. Here is what the Oxford online dictionary lists:

orientate

Pronunciation: /ˈɔːrɪənteɪt, ˈɒr-/
verb
another term for orient

Origin: mid 19th century: probably a back-formation from orientation

Once a word becomes a word – it’s a word!

Comment on Apple’s MagSafe Powercord Issues by jonathan ramey

jonathan ramey — Sat, 14 Jan 2012 12:44:40 +0000

I have had 3 mac books and have had problems with all three power adapters. One has the old brick style and 2 have had the newer type. I have noticed that after I end up turning the brick over it works for a while but then it stops. I got a Qtip and some alcohol and cleaned the small retractable pins in the adapter and the input on the laptop. This does help for a spell. I do think the plugs are defective. I just try to keep my pins and surfaces clean now on a regular basis and it helps. As fap as replacement when you are out of warranty, look on amazon. I never spend the 80 that apple wants. I can get the cords for 35 a piece at amazon. Good luck.

Comment on It’s “Oriented” not “Orientated” by Kyle

Kyle — Fri, 06 Jan 2012 13:01:16 +0000

“Orientated” is British English and is used almost exclusively in the UK, Australia and New Zealand. Whereas “oriented” is used nearly exclusively in the US.

Comment on It’s “Oriented” not “Orientated” by Stacey

Stacey — Mon, 02 Jan 2012 16:17:16 +0000

Perhaps when you get yourself all worked up you should use your spell check (American version, since you mentioned you’re here) before you hit “Submit.”

Comment on It’s “Oriented” not “Orientated” by Stacey

Stacey — Mon, 02 Jan 2012 16:12:42 +0000

Wow… I mean really… just wow… You can’t manage to get your point across without cussing??? AND lowering yourself to saying something as ridiculous as “on your period”??? Perhaps you should save what little brain power you seem to have for something just a little more important, like, say – your job? Or perhaps you’re not quite intelligent enough to have one of those…

Comment on It’s “Oriented” not “Orientated” by Stacey

Stacey — Mon, 02 Jan 2012 16:06:35 +0000

What IS correct is not to use apostrophes when a word is not in possession of anything!! It’s “Americans” NOT “American’s” in this case. And many of us use correct English (American English, that is), thank you very much.

Comment on It’s “Oriented” not “Orientated” by Aaron

Aaron — Wed, 28 Dec 2011 22:25:04 +0000

ORIENTATED is only used in England by numbskull Geordies and Cockney’s. You will NOT, I repeat will NOT find an educated (I didn’t say rich)Englishman use the word “orientated”.